Nov 19 2007

Idiots

Tag: Love Notesadmin @ 12:15 am

From: SimplyGLP@aol.com

I heard about your “cause” on my local news tonight. What a bunch of bullox! Is it really practical to point fingers at leaf blowers and motorcycles? I would like to know what it is you think you’ll accomplish? A ban? A curfew? REDICULOUS! I’d LOVE to see what you would do at Bike Night at Quaker Steak N Lube some Wednesday! Youd be beaten! Or last Sunday when the Corvette Museum was there and the parking lot was FULL of Corvettes and the ROAR of V8 engines!

I am the proud owner of a 2004 Pontiac GTO. It has a Ls1 5.7 litre V8 engine. It is LOUD by nature. If you’re going to attempt to enforce your ideals about a noise free America, what do you think you’ll get from people like me? People who have worked hard all their lives to own such a beautiful sports car, or maybe a motorcycle. It will not be optomisim and respect. That much I can promise you!

I understand your love for peace and quiet. On weekends I often visit state parks and other serene places. Its beautiful. It’s wonderful! That’s what those places are for! But its just not practical to try to eliminate noise in town! Thats what a town is. It is noise. It is lawnmowers and leaf blowers. Cars and trucks. Honking and yelling and crying. Its noisey and stressful.

Don’t you think that maybe its supposed to be that way? To make us appreciate the beauty of those quiet places in the world! To be able to stop and say, “Wait. Theres no noise. Just chirping birds and running water.” Noise can be annoying, true. But trying revive a dead chapter, “seen but not heard” is a bit much. You will end up doing more harm than good and it will annoy a lot of good people.

Noise is okay. If you can’t handle it… move to the country. There is plenty of peace and quiet out here in Belleville! But don’t go trying to make another law, another rule, about what people that are really only minding thier own business and not hurting anyone, can and cannot do. Its pompus, its rude, its whiney, and quite frankly its getting old.

Yours Truly,

GTOGirl- Founder and President of The Greater Madison GTO Club


Aug 27 2007

Motorcycles

Tag: Love Notesadmin @ 12:10 am

I own a Harley (and proud of it) my bike is some what noisy BUT I won’t quit it down for any one , if you don’t ride you don’t know….my some what loud bike saved my life and my wife’s life more than you can count, you all say “use your horn” ,well you get on a bike and when your about to get hit just hit your horn, at that moment your trying to save your life not look for a horn button but being my bike is some what noisy people know I’m next to them and I’m still hear to write this thanks to my little noisy Harley.

signed , Concerned for my rights

America land of the FREE ????

Kevin Gronkiewicz
kmgronk@fluidsystemsengineering.com
(August 27, 2007)


Jul 30 2007

Move to the county Daaa!

Tag: Love Notesadmin @ 12:18 am

From: kaw4@verizon.net

You are like the ones that move next to an airport and then complain about the noise. You are like a baby that has thier bottle taken away. Be American and perserve are rights, Stop trying to take them away. Maybe someday it will be your rights. I ride a motorcycle and you should be complaining about ignorate drivers, loud pipes make them become aware. Maybe you should ride and enjoy the country rather then lock yourself in your room. Do you have nothing better to do then complain about things. Get a life and enjoy what is around you and quit being concerned with others and there enjoyment. Why don’t we stop air travel, Trains, Trucks, I hope you live in a shack with nothing because that is what you will have. Maybe I should start a website against people with nothing better to do, but have better things to do like enjoy life while I have it. My suggestion is get a life.

Against the will to be free

Kraig Wilson


Jul 30 2007

Airplanes

Tag: Love Notesadmin @ 12:17 am

From: kaw4@verizon.net

I live in ontario ca, I moved next to ontario airport. The noise is unbelievable. But I moved here so I should live with it. If you want to complain maybe you should stop flying on airplanes.


May 24 2007

Quit the Band

Tag: Love Notesadmin @ 12:16 am

From: jeidsmoe@madison.k12.wi.us

I think we should quit the band and let us kids live our lives. When you were a kid I know you liked to bang your your music so why can’t we. So many of my friends think that its stupid to band car systems. You and everyone who wants to band systems should move of the city and move some place quiet instead of being around all of the noise.

john


Dec 31 2004

Love Notes - 2004

Tag: Love Notesadmin @ 8:47 pm

January 31, 2004

To Those against exhaust noise,
Exhaust “Noise” is an opinion. As matter of fact, it is your opinion, which means nothing to me! I should have the right to have and drive a vehicle with loud exhaust if I want to. What gives you the right to silence, and not give me my right to a proformance exhaust system on a vehicle that I bought and paid for. If you know anything about the history of what gets your ass from point “A” to point “B”, you would know that loud exhaust were arround before you ever had a drivers lisence!
Don’t like it? Get some ear plugs!
***Please forward this to anyone else that has a problem with my vehicles.
Thanks for nothing!
Chad
CHADTRACY01@wmconnect.com
(January 31, 2004)

February 14, 2004

These aftermarket “hot rod” exhaust systems you complain about, produces jobs, and helps our economy. Just because maybe you drive a POS 1990 civic, does not mean that you need to disriminate against the sound of a hot rod. So if the world was to eradicate the sound of hot rods, what would be next on your list of complaints? I have it, how about the birds chirping, or a dog barking. Come to think about it, my phone pisses me off everytime it rings. Dang, maybe we should shoot the phone, oh wait nevermind, a gun is noise pollution too. What I am getting at, is that I know many people that do not mind the sound of a nice v8 with a performance exhaust. Go cry to you mom some more you little pantywaist.

James Golden
jgoldent314@yahoo.com
(February 14, 2004)

I drive a 1972 Corvette with sidepipes (4” open, NO MUFFLERS) and a 1980 500cc motorcycle with an OPEN EXHAUST (NO MUFFLER). Could you please provide a listing of your members’ home addresses? I promise to only use it to avoid their neighborhoods ;-)

BTW, each of my vehicles is fully street legal!

Respectfully,
Todd

Greylin
gdtrfg@hotmail.com
(February 14, 2004)

GET A LIFE!! MIKE ELLISOR
Wizzard540@aol.com
(February 14, 2004)

I completely agree with you. They are loud. Not as loud as an SLP Loudmouth but they provide exactly the sound I want. I’ll tell you what. Maybe we’ll all put quiet mufflers on our performance cars if all the male members of your orginization will have themselves castrated and all the female members get their ovaries either removed or the tubes cut. That way we’ll all have a better world without people who complain about everything.
Sure I hate all the imports out there with loud annoying mufflers that sound like giant bees but I don’t form an organization to bitch about it. Go do something meaningful with your lives and stop trying to punish those of us who like our cars to actually sound good. A car with a proper exhaust has a low rumble at idle and normal throttle and is only loud when at full throttle. Just because some people have cutouts, doesn’t mean we all do.
SmcdwnHtel@aol.com
(February 14, 2004)

These aftermarket “hot rod” exhaust systems you complain about, produces jobs, and helps our economy. Just because maybe you drive a POS 1990 civic, does not mean that you need to disriminate against the sound of a hot rod. So if the world was to eradicate the sound of hot rods, what would be next on your list of complaints? I have it, how about the birds chirping, or a dog barking. Come to think about it, my phone pisses me off everytime it rings. Dang, maybe we should shoot the phone, oh wait nevermind, a gun is noise pollution too. What I am getting at, is that I know many people that do not mind the sound of a nice v8 with a performance exhaust. Go cry to you mom some more you little pantywaist.

James Golden
jgoldent314@yahoo.com
(February 14, 2004)

February 15, 2004

I am laughing…at your stupidity. \”Lowering property values\”, get real. You people need help. I am a very socially conservative person and even I am laughing at you people.

I wont digress further into my opinion. Its not needed seeing that you folks are that entrenched in your views.

DAVID
synthetic517@yahoo.com
(February 15, 2004)

Waaahhhh, stop belly-aching about “too much noise”! What about the semi trucks that have to use their jake-brakes? Guess you’d better try to outlaw those too huh? What about live concerts all over the world? Ooops! better ban those also! Then there would be no live concerts anymore, wouldn’t that be just peachy for you and your anal retentive cohorts!

I know, let’s make it a world where the youth of America can have no more fun, nothing left to enjoy except what, sipping tea while listening to Mozart??? Get your cranium out of your hind-side!!!! Let people live a little, and enjoy life. For God’s sake, aren’t we controlled enough by the damned Government as it is? If you really want more trouble with our youth, more rebellion, and more rioting, then by all means, take ALL the fun and excitement out of life. You better start thinking ahead about the youth and not just your own simple-minded wishes, because if you don’t, chances are….. you’re gonna regret your decisions!

Sincerely,
An open-minded, non tea sipping, Mozart listening or anal retentive individual!

Shane
shacar87@ptd.net
(February 15, 2004)

you guys are a bunch of idiots. yeah, you should have the right to peace and quiet, but what makes your right to peace and quiet more imporant than my freedom to make the noise?

OneFAASTC10@aol.com
(February 15, 2004)

Quite disturbing…That you would post such nonsense. Go live in a fucking log cabin Mr./Ms. Thoreau and write a book about how peaceful living by a pond is, or will you complain about the noise that the squirrels and such make?

AustinP576@aol.com
(February 15, 2004)

Author:
If you live in an apartment & it bothers you, buy a house. If you live in a suburb and it bugs you, buy a house with land. No reason we should weenify America because some people don’t appreciate the sound of a true American deep roaring thundering earthquake shaking exhaust. Brrooooowwwmmmmmm!!!!
I live in an apartment, the noise of those around me is the price we pay to live in apartments or suburbs. When I hear a Mustang or big Ford with some flows go by, I get tingly. When my Ford Cobra neighbor wakes me up, all I can think of is, “D*mn that sounds good.” Then I go back to sleep & dream of the day I too can rumble down the street.
–True Southerner
(February 15, 2004)

February 16, 2004

This is America founded on the basis of freedom so you can kiss my ass! You want noise free go live in a 3rd world country and push you cause on them you communist fucks. “blood pressure raising chaos and confusion creating hot rod” get a life your friend, local law enforcment officer

Benjamin West
west8282@hotmail.com
(February 16, 2004)

Whats your guys problem? Theres nothing wrong with noise..You cant get rid of it. I’ll be happy to let you know I drive a “boom car” and have the loudest Flowmaster that you can get installed in it. Most people love my car, Im always getting compliments on my system and how “mean” my exhaust makes my truck sound. There is nothing wrong with making a car loud..the louder the better. You do realize that flowmasters help improve exhaust flow which in turn lowers vehicle gas consumption. So let me get this straight, you’d rather rid the world of noise pollution, but you’d rather increase smog and other pollution? That just doesn’t make since to me. Oh, and I guess next you’ll want to ban air planes, air conditioners, TV, radio, computers, and cell phones? Oh, and why not go a step further and complain about the wind and trees, since when wind blows through a tree it makes noise? Come on people…use your brain and find something else to complain about that others actually agree on.

Collin Zedler
cbzed101@satx.rr.com
(February 16, 2004)

You guys have to be out of your mind. Noise is part of everyday life. If you don’t like it move your bum ass into the mountains. And if it still seems to be too noisy go fly to the frickin moon. Ya’ll a bunch of frickin losers with too much time on your hand. Find something else better to do, like save the rain forest, stop forest fires, or maybe a rocket to shove up your ass to fly to the moon. You pieces of shit! You will never stop the noise. Oh yea by the way ya’ll are not allowed to scream or raise your voice to your kids anywhere because that would be breaking the law right? Too much noise from your ridiculous mouths. GET A LIFE FUCKERS! Tell me where you live so I can get Tony fucking Schmacher to rip his top fuel dragster down your street you sons of bitches. Flowmasters Forever!!!

SpiDeyVeTtE36@aol.com
(February 16, 2004)

February 17, 2004

all you hippies are the same you want to steal every ones fun away, your the kind of people that made it so no one can show off there hot rods and muscle cars in my town if it brings joy to people you hippies have to take it away and how can you say driving a classic AMERICAN car with AMERICAN flags on it with a loud exaust thats made in AMERICA is desicrating the flag we drive these cars because we love america and we dont want some crappy jap car made of plastic and that are build by 10 year old kids.i love my country and thats why i drive a claassic american hot rod DON’T SILENCE MY MUSCLE CAR

Chevyjim1970@aol.com
(February 17, 2004)

You all need to find something better to do with your time. Screaming babies and children are taken out in public. That is probably the most annoying “noise” I can think of. You stop letting people take their “noisy” children out in public and I will put a quiet muffler on my car, and quit using my leaf blower, and quit using my lawnmower, and quit my job (because we make a lot of noise), and make sure all of the windows are closed when I run the vacuum, make sure my stereo is turned down, etc., etc., etc….. I could list things that make noise all night. I’m sure no “noise” was made when the carpenters built the house you are living in,was it?

Go Hug A Tree

Jared VanArsdall
jvanarsdall@insightbb.com
(February 17, 2004)

February 18, 2004

You say that police officers should take a stand and start to pull over the drivers of these \’boom cars\’ more often, but I dont know if you have ever been near a police cars with its sirens on? they are louder then any exhaust I have ever heard. The sounds emmited by a police siren are right below that 150 dB pain threshhold. I can just imagine you thinking to youself \’oh, well that is why we dont want police and emergency workers using their sirens either.\’ Greeeeat idea, maybe next time it will be you in the back of the ambulance when some driver is too dumb to look in their rear-view every 15 seconds like they teach you in drivers education.

Stop stereotyping, 99% of us hot rod drivers are law obiding citizens who take pride in the country we live in. I am damn proud to be driving a car that was made by american hands, in an american factory, with american parts. There is nothing unpatriotic about a loud American made automobile.

CHRIS DEZINNO
fbird383@adelphia.net
(February 18, 2004)

February 20, 2004

your a fuckin moron!
ximpimpitox@ign.com
(February 20, 2004)

February 21, 2004

I was appalled at your reference to car stereos being used as “advertisements” for drug dealers. I live in a big city and not once have I seen this method being used. When the drug dealers want to sell drugs, they stand on a damn corner. Though some people are idiots, you’d think a person would be a bit smarter than to draw as much attention to themselves as possible while committing a crime. Do you ever hear about bank robbers “bumping” their systems as they drive away to brag that they just robbed a bank? Where I live, we have things called “legal” Bass Competitions. This is where a group of people, sponsored by a company, get together and judge the quality of various car audio systems. By definition, that makes it a sport. Now, when you go to a baseball game inside a dome with crowd sound levels reaching upwards of 145dBA do you start walking around the stadium asking people to be a bit quieter everytime a homerun is hit? Of course not, it’s in the fun of the game. Some things in this world are meant to be loud. Imagine what society would be like if everything was whisper quiet. Eventually peoples hearing would begin to dwindle, similar to the effect of muscle atrophy. I am not saying people who constantly listen to loud music are smart, but a people who like quality music are. For many teenagers in this era, car audio is a form of social status. Around here having a good system makes you look better than if you have a really nice car. Remember when you were young and you had a dream car? Perhaps a Little Deuce Coupe, or a Ford Model T? All of a sudden you get that car and now you are the envy of all your friends. A week later you are told that it is illegal to drive said car. Now people are laughing at you. “ha ha! What are you going to do now?” Then the kid goes crazy and turns to a life of crime in an attempt to regain the good feeling of being liked. Take away social status and you take away a persons dignity. Here’s and idea: rather than wasting thousands of dollars of your own and taxpayers money, how about you go to the hardware store and stock up on ear plugs? Or maybe you’d prefer to cause your children to become social rejects? Nothing kills the mood more than the poor kid in front of you at a concert being forced to wear giant ear muffs.

Peter3674@aol.com
(February 21, 2004)

Why dont you just cry about it? WHAAAAAAA!

Jeremy & Alicia
jjnadn@door.net
(February 21, 2004)

February 23, 2004

you are an annoying douche bag, who hates him/herself. So you’re trying to ruin the fun that us tuners have, let us enjoy do ing what we do.

Jason Gudeman
jgudeman@hotmail.com
(February 23, 2004)

February 25, 2004

I am just curious, how do we take actions against morons like you to ensure our rights??
amorget@transamata.com
(February 25, 2004)

March 28, 2004

Are you actually serious about the stuff on this site? It is absolutely ridiculous that you would want laws like this! What about speaking in public? If you have something against the noise of aircrafts I hope you never fly again. You also hate the sound of vehicles. I hope you drive an electric car because every other car makes too much noise for you! If you hate the sound of music do you not listen to the radio? If you hate the sound of anything with a combustion engine, do you not take care of your lawn? Maybe since ambulances make too much noise we should get rid of them! The only reason I am alive today is because of an ambulance! So where do you live if tools make too much noise? I am sure that tools that “make noise” were used in the building of your house. Car alarms a bad idea? I take it your car has never been broken into or stolen. Well, by your rules you should live in a cardboard box in the middle of the forest, but then the animals would make too much noise! So what do you do for a living that has no noise? Oh well, I guess everyone needs something to fight for so that they feel important. By the way I have an audio system that has hit 150.3db. If you tell me where you are located I would love to show it to you! Hopefully one day you will realize how ridiculous your rules are!

bob obob
bobobobb2001@yahoo.com
(March 28, 2004)

April 17, 2004

I just wanted to let you guys know you can go screw your selves. Your a bunch of f****** idiots, you think car exhaust shouldnt sound good along with this bull sh**. And leaf blowers?WTF? how the h*** are you suppost to blow leaves ya bunch of d*** retards, You can take your d*** noise plans and shove them up your a****. IM PROUD TO BE A NOISE MAKER AND WILL FROM NOW ON TRY TO MAKE MORE NOISE TO P*** YOU RETARDS OFF, AND IM PROUND TO OWN SEVERAL EXTREMLY LOUD TRUCKS. P*** OFF===========> - - — — -

Mudder54505@aol.com
(April 17, 2004)

April 19, 2004
Welcome to America.

Freedom mean anything to you? Right… Freedom to be as loud as we want. Grow up.

Thanks!

Michael Slaven
slavenx@charter.net
(April 19, 2004)

April 20, 2004

Were you sheltered as a child or what? Get a clue you aimless moron. You are talking about limiting an entire society. You sound like a f****** nazi!
Just because some women got to b**** and moan their way to equal rights (when they actually want special treatment…let’s see an average woman do the same physical labor an average man can…get a clue moron) does not mean that your unfounded and overly strict opinion means a d***. Your thoughts here mean nothing. You are worthless.

I am guessing that you have had a few people with loud stereos go driving through your neighborhood. Whoop-di-f******-doo. Shit happens. File a complaint, if that doesn’t help, call the cops. There are already strict noise ordinances. You are proposing a controlled environment that would be a waste of tax dollars (I hope you like giving up 80 percent of your paycheck you dumb-f***)

I hate to tell you this, but you are basically coming out of left field. Just because you don’t like something, doesn’t mean you are going to ruin businesses because of it. YOU ARE NOTHING! Remember that!
So, in closing, I would like to inform you that you are proposing changes that would cost this country more than just tax dollars. How about the jobs that would be lost due to “punishing the installers of electronically amplified music systems” and eliminating course in audio dynamics? Get a f****** clue you selfish b****!

Sincerely,

Nate
monkman33@hotmail.com
(April 20, 2004)

May 5, 2004

Its sad to see how childish the human race can be. Why screw with everyone else when you can just ignore it or move to a place isolated away.

Chris Cryderman
crydo17@comcast.net
(May 5, 2004)

May 26, 2004

stop crying

“john madden jr.”
bmwrick@hotmail.com
May 26, 2004

June 2, 2004

I shouldn’t even be wasting my time pointing out such obvious backwards thinking. But i better before you get out of hand. Do you really think the government needs to regulate even more aspects of our life? If a neighbor has a problem with noise, wouldn’t it be healthier for the community if they confronted you personally, instead of relying on the law to deal with petty complaints? Especially if the person is intolerant selfish person? Why does the law need to step in? There is most likely something wrong with you , you should see a doctor if unexpected noises really effect your state of being the way you tell yourself they do. You obviously have a lot of energy, i suggest you direct it toward a more worthy issue, and quit trying to lobby for more control of our citizens.
Thank you,
me

larry hanghog
zagnut666@yahoo.com
(June 2, 2004)

If an officer doesn’t need to witness the complaint of noise, and anyone can just sign something that results in a person getting a fine.

I will petition the world and back to sign affidavids swearing a noise complaint against you, for running your /_ deleted_/ mouth!

Val Trex
valtrex@yourmom.com
(June 2, 2004)

June 27, 2004

Well we just got back from the competition and my van hit 160.3 db! I LOVE NOISE!!! All of you that hate noise should get a free one way ride to space. I am thinking about starting a new website that is for noise!

bob obob
bobobobb2001@yahoo.com
(June 27, 2004)

July 24, 2004

I find much of your site totally wrong and mis-informative. For example motorcycle owners rely on loud exhaust to be noticed. There are many accidents involving motorcycles because they couldnt be seen. This is greatly reduced when they can be heard.

leaf blowers?? this is something used by people cleaning up their yard, how is it that big of a problem, turn your music in your house up.

You talk about these boom cars, when i reality i guarantee no one following your cause like helpless sheep have ever been to a stereo competition, or personally know anything about it. You cant even hear these cars when you are outside the building it is being held in. Or even down the street a couple blocks. They compete with their windows up and doors shut. Many of the really loud ones re-inforce the cabin. Why do you care so much if people do this, they cant even drive them on the street, and most people who compete in the “boom-car” arena as you say have alot more respect than that idiots that drive around playing their 200 dollar best buy stereo loud. I am all for giving out fines to people being loud and obnoxious in residential area’s, but when people are out cruising the blvd on a saturday, what do you care if they play their stereo loud.

I also find car alarms annoying. very annoying. These alarms are improperly installed and far too sensitive to be useful. Most good alarms will chirp once if their is contact with the vehicle. chirp again if there is more, and if someone hits it really hard, it will go off. It is the cheap and poorly installed alarms that go off when a truck goes by, or a loud car. These alarms have their sensitivity set much too high. I would love it if cheap car alarms like this were off the road.

I think you are taking this way to far to actually have a club, website, members, everything, you are just as bad as the NRA. Both are so strongly opinionated in one way that you cant ever convince them about anything. Maybe you are different.

thanks,

Justin

Justin Coldiron
jcold@comcast.net
(July 24, 2004)

July 29, 2004

LOUD PIPES DO SAVE LIVES. ANYTHING LOUD IS COOL. I LOVE NOISE. YOU SHOULD JUST BUY 100 ACRES IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE, AND RELAX IN YOUR OWN “NO NOISE ZONE”. BUT AS FOR THE REAL WORLD, YOU GUYS ARE SCREWED, BECAUSE LOUD BIKES, BOOM CARS, AND 2 STROKE LEAF BLOWERS WILL BE USED NO MATTER IF YOUR GROUP OF 50 +/- OR SO PEOPLE LIKE IT OR NOT. bECAUSE THE NILLIONS OF US WHO LOVE NOISE, WILL BE HERE TO KNOCK YOUR CLUBS A** TO THE GROUND.

HAVE A NICE DAY :-)
-NOISE LOVIN ADAM-

nofear801@juno.com
(July 29, 2004)

Gentlemen and Ladies,

As a true American I respect your right to express your point of view on noise pollution. As a small business owner who relies on admittedly noisy equipment to make a living, I would like to point out that anti-noise legislation would cripple many industries around the United States.

Noise is a fact of life in our modern society. In exchange for our high standard of living, we put up with things that annoy and bother us on a daily basis.

The homes you live in, the offices you work in, were constructed by people making noise.

The food you buy at the supermarket was delivered to the store by a truck belching emissions.

Practically every modern convenience you enjoy right now was produced in a noisy environment, then delivered at some point by truck.

But to legislate noise, to place restrictions on various industries, would cause many, many businesses to shut down for economic reasons.

I respect your right to voice your views. I am merely trying to express my own. After reading the often inane and antagonistic e-mails in your “I Like Noise” forum, I respectfully challenge you to post this message for your viewers.

There’s nothing wrong with looking at both sides of the issue, is there?

Andrew Harrigan
Owner/Operator
NV Lawn Specialists
(703) 709-9239

Nvlawn@aol.com
(July 29, 2004)

August 3, 2004

u people seriously need to get a f****** life already. i mean dont u realize what idiots u are, after reading all the emails like these that u recieve? if u dont like noise, move to the woods and hump trees all day, cuz i guarantee that no one here would miss u. its people like u that get airports like the one my family owns property on shut down, because ur so f****** retarded that u move next to it and complain cuz the planes are “noisy”. well u f****** idiot, what do u expect? and then u hear a dirt bike at a track and complain about that, cuz u cant stand the sound of people having fun. same thing with complaining about noise from cars. im in the process of making my dodge ram (thats a truck, in case u didnt know) as loud as i possibly can. i dont do it to annoy people, i do it because it sounds good, and if it annoys u than tough s***. get a life already. stop b******* about s*** that will never change. i live for the noise u cant stand, and u better be damn sure that im not gonna change for ur sorry a**. F***** morons….

barbie916@comcast.net
(August 3, 2004)

August 4, 2004

dude, seriously, don’t you have anything else to complain about??? Are tuner cars and such vehicles “terrorists”???, are they destroying america?? c’mon man, what now, a car with a loud exhaust and a 600 watts ICE goes by and makes a building crumble??? c’mon dawg, why don’t you complain about soldiers at war or children starving to death??… there’s much worse things in the world than a loud exhausts and a loud ICE in a car…oh yeah, of course ICE( in car entertainment)

SkylineGTRR182@aol.com
(August 4, 2004)

August 6, 2004

I dont know your deal with slamming expresion and creativity, but I really hope your comments didn\’t push pioner to pull its amazing campaign. Im sorry you need silence but not every one does.

joeydesigner@hotmail.com
(August 6, 2004)


Dec 31 2003

Love Notes - 2003

Tag: Love Notesadmin @ 9:06 pm

January 2, 2003

you people are on crack, if your legislative agend was ever fufilled society as a whole would cease to exsist, my suggestion to you is ear plugs, and ahead out of ass removal kit!
chris donahue
car stereo and alarm installer
hot rodder
father of 2 of the loudest children on the earth.
Hardwire01@cs.com
(January 2, 2003)

January 10, 2003

Hey, ya, Peace and Quiet is great sometimes… if you want it all the time… MOVE TO KANSAS! or Iowa or some other useless place. As for all of you…. I wish i knew where you all live so I could drive past your house at 2:00 in the morning with my OPEN EXHAUST car!
Stop wasting you time…
ilm66c2@hotmail.com
(January 10, 2003)

January 21, 2003

This is Ridiculous
10 feet away from your car if u can hear something omg this is so horrible this should be for people too then throw them in jail if they talk and i can hear them 10 feet away
if any of this Ridiculous carp becomes a law (which it wont) there is gona be alot of rebelling from alot of people i hope u realize and there all gona be Heading towards you because…
I LIKE NOISE !!!!!!!
hondatuned@hotmail.com
(January 21, 2003)

February 9, 2003

people are SOOOO concerned ONLY about themselves nowadays….if someone wants to have a motorcycle/”boom car”/exhaust/jackhammer/pots and pans, LET THEM….the amount of time that someone is subjected to the noise is almost null (now, if the person is parked in front of u purposely making the noise, then its different) but, i say, why stop at noise….my neighbors house is the ugliest color, i think he should have to change it…my other neighbor has these bushes which i think are tacky, why doesnt he get rid of them…there is a pungent smell of food from a differnt neigbors house whenn they barbecue, i say ban barbecues…. there are some children not far from me who are ALWAYS raucous, i say FORCED abortions to limit noise….COME ON now, seriously, where does it all end, and WHO gets to choose the arbitrary endpoint?
chamberbuds69@hotmail.com
(February 9, 2003)

February 12, 2003

omg.. ya;ll must be the most ignorant people on the face of the earth! noise free? so what are you going to do after you cut my exhaust system off my truck? kill all the bird that make noise, cut off everyone elses exhaust system? cut all the wires to every sound sytem ever made? then destroy every PA system made?? LMAO worse than damn tree huggers!!!
rthunder44@hotmail.com
(February 12, 2003)
How piss poor is it to rant and rave about performance exhaust and leaf blower. I personally drive a so called loud truck and work on a golf course with leaf blowers and god forbid tractors. You feed people with this sleep deprivation line of crap and increased stress, high blood pressure among your other SERIOUS health problems. Yea fucking right. I along with all my other hot rod friends dont lose any sleep from listening to exhaust or leaf blowers or your bull shit for that matter. Cant you find something productive to do with your time. Maybe start bitching about all the damn foreigners in this country that cant speak english get rid of the no good teachers or something more productive than hugging a tree. You say that this loud exhaust is done only to get on your nerves and break the law. Fight for stricter inspections. My truck is loud but by law is perfectly legal. I didnt do it to make noise theres a little thing called performance. It tends to make a engine run better to be less restricted. But any ways these cars arent that loud unless you are really into the throttle mufflers or not. I have had both so I would know first hand. In that case if they are around your neiborhood making all this so called noise how about telling the cops that there are alot of cars speeding. If it is makeing enough noise to bother you this much there is no possible way they are not speeding in which i totally disagree. Quit your bitching about noise and this that and the other and get on with life. Too short to worry about someone that wants to drive a car they have modified for performance at the track plus as a daily driver too. Worry about real issues like spending more time with your family, eating healthy or having fun and not being a fucking dumb cock trying to take all the custom out of custom rides.
southern_comfort100_proof@yahoo.com
(February 12, 2003)

February 13, 2003

Its people like you that fuck up everything !!! Flow master is one of the best exhaust manufacturers out there, fuck you and your illegal bullshit, i hope they sue your asses !!! Cocksuckers
FastFoneFifty@f150world.net
(February 13, 2003)

February 15, 2003

you are the type of people who jack off to errors in the phone book
cbass@rochester.rr.com
(February 15, 2003)

February 16, 2003

If you hate noise so much…….. THEN SHUT THE FUCK UP!!
bouncinghappyface@hotmail.com
(February 16, 2003)

March 11, 2003

what the hell do you think your doing you worthless son of a bitch. thats the gayest thing ive ever seen in my life. if i find out where you live ill personally move in right behind you and get the biggest stereo ever and blast it 24/7 you are worthless. you are an embaressment to our country, thats why people think USA is pussys is because of little fags like yourself
Pbc923x@aol.com
(March 11, 2003)
Please realize that YOU SUCK!!!!
When you buy a Flowmaster Muffler you will learn that it is made in the USA. That means you buy an American product made by American citizens. If you are so hard for getting rid of noise, then try shutting down the factory and putting all those hard working Americans out of work you stupid piece of SHIT!!!!!
reithjoe@hotmail.com
(March 11, 2003)

March 12, 2003

In my opinion the rumble of a good exhaust system should be just as much a \”freedom of speech\” as everything else the \”politically correct\” people say is \”freedom of speech\”. I am a tax paying United States citizen and if you want to down noise pollution why not start with the punks and their loud sound systems or the whining of all of the people that want to complain about EVERYTHING that\’s not exactly the way they want it. That\’s what makes this America, land of the FREE. So if you are so bothered by noise pollution get ear plugs or better yet stay at home.
classyrednecklady@yahoo.com
(March 12, 2003)
Why are you taking our freedom away? It is a free country, and it is people like you that continously put restrictions on our freedom. Please, put your ear plugs in and find something else to bitch about!
ljander@eastex.net
(March 12, 2003)

March 13, 2003

When someone told me about this, I couldn’t believe it. When I started to read, I almost fell off my chair. It must be awful to be so bored that you have taken the time to develop a website to eradicate the sounds of every day life. I bet you sit there alone in your home, ears on full alert to catch the slightest hint of something that may be on your hit list. Yes noise does cause aggressive behavior. It causes people like you to yell at their neighbors for going about their every day routine.
Now as for your contention that noise is a serious health hazard. I will admit that noise at a high level will cause hearing loss. However, if your neighbor has a leaf blower, the sound level at your house next door or across the street is going to be nowhere near a damaging level. Now you are trying to state that leaf blowers cause heart disease? Motorcycles cause high blood pressure. Do you realize how silly that sounds? What is with the fascination on leaf blowers anyway. My lawn mower, chainsaw, table saw, power mitre, router, and circular saw are all louder than my leaf blower, but yet you choose to pick on the poor leaf blower. Did someone beat you with a leaf blower at some point? I just don’t understand the persecution. Frankly, as a member of “PETLAB” People For The Ethical Treatment Of Leaf Blowers this appals me. This, of course, is meant to be a joke, but to most people your examples are just as ridiculous as this.
I am respectful of my neighbors. I do not mow before 9 a.m. I don’t blast my stereo in my car. I do use keyless entry, but I turn the beep off mostly because it annoys me. I just try to take care of my home and make it look nice. I don’t have a lot of extra time on my hands because I work a full time job and have three kids. For this reason, I need certain devices that will save me time. Among them are: power mower, power hedge trimmer, leaf blower, chainsaw, and other assorted time-saving, noise-making devices that I can’t live without. I’m sure if I lived next door to you, that you would be happy to take the 5 hours or so it would take to mow my 1 acre lawn with your 20″ non-powered reel mower. I’m sorry, but I neither have the time nor desire to spend that long doing my lawn.
Here’s a plan. If the city is too noisy for you move to the country. On second thought, if that happened, I’m sure you would complain about deisel tractors operating at all hours of the day & night trying to get the harvest in; grain dryers that sound like and airplane landing in your front yard running 24 hours a day; horses, cows, hogs, chickens and other assorted farm animals who don’t care what time it is when they make sounds; coyotees howling every night (Not just between 9 am & 9 pm); have you ever 1 million crickets going all at once?;and those darn leaf blowers, they’re even out there too. My point being that there are sounds everywhere. Noise is different to every person. I happen to like the sounds of the country. To some it may be a bunch of noise. I also like to hear the sound of a finely tuned engine. Obviously, you don’t. I love to hear them coming down my street. I live a wooded neighborhood in a suburb. We have tons of birds in my back yard every morning all spring, summer, and fall. They drive me nuts every morning with their cackling and cawing. To me this is noise, but I’m not in yard trying to pick them all off with my BB gun. It’s just small part of life that’s a little annoying, but I’ve learned to deal with it. Life is full of little annoyances, but it’s also too short to let them bother you. I read some of your other letters in the “I like noise” section and noticed that you only have printed the ones that make themselves look like idiots by resorting to profanity and name-calling. I hope you are big enough to also print a legitimate argument. Just remember, what is noise to one may be music to another.
timberwolf531@cs.com
(March 13, 2003)
March 15, 2003

You guys are out of your minds! The American MUSCLECAR will never go away! The louder the better. Cruise on!
jj_moniebags@hotmail.com
(March 15, 2003)

March 16, 2003

WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE??? WHERE DO YOU THINK YOU ARE???? HEY THIS IS NOT A COMMUNIST COUNTRY THIS IS AMERICA! YOU PEOPLE OUGHT TO BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES…..BRAINWASHING INNOCENT PEOPLE AND TRYING TO FOOL THEM TO THINKING YOU FUCKED UPED IDIOTS ARE DOING THE WORLD SOME GOOD….YOU PEOPLE ARE LIKE A JIM JONES CULT ASKING FOR CASH DONATIONS($100,$200,$500)AND DELIVERING NOTHING BUT EMPTY PROMISES!!!! HERE IS YOUR SOLUTION TO THE NOISE PROBLEM…GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF THE SAND, GO BUY A BOAT(IF YOU DON’T HAVE ONE ALREADY FROM RIPPING INNOCENT PEOPLE OFF) AND SET YOUR DESTINATION FOR THE MIDDLE OF THE OCEAN ….IT’S ALL THE QUIET YOU WILL EVER NEED!!!! LET ME TELL YOU, GOD TAKES CARE OF THE FUCKED UP PEOPLE LIKE YOU, BY NOT LETTING THEM KNOW THAT THEY ARE FUCKED UP….DO YOU KNOW THAT! AND JUST SO YOU KNOW I LIKE THE QUIET ALSO, IT’S THE NOISE FROM JACK ASS LIBERALS WHO HAVE TO BE EVERYONE’S PROTECTOR, LIKE YOU, THAT REALLY PISSES ME OFF! I HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE HAPPY BOUNCING FACE…..SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!
GO AWAY!!!!
zed4202002@yahoo.com
(March 16, 2003)

April 30, 2003

Terrorism, war, disease, famine, poverty etc. etc. etc. and you people are worried about car alarms and leaf blowers? Did you guys eat paint chips as a kid? I can’t believe there’s actually a site like this. Oh, man this stuff is rich. Surely you can find a better cause than the occasional annoyance of construction work, or leaf blowers or car alarms.
Jim Johnson
borntorun03_697@hotmail.com
(April 30, 2003)

May 10, 2003

File this under “I Like Noise!”, a collection of what I suspect is the least articulate comments you receive. By implication, anyone who opposes you is a moron. Nice propaganda touch.

I’d love for the P. A. system at my local college hockey arena to be turned down. It’s too loud. Yes, unmuffled Harleys make me crazy. I’ve worn hearing protection at work for over a decade. At one time I used the cheap foam ear plugs, and in addition covered them with the old-style “ear muff” hearing protectors. I only quit that because of excessive ear wax buildup caused by the foam plugs. I installed Flowmaster muffler on my boat because it’s MUCH quieter than the previously used muffler.

Yes, noise is a genuine issue of our times. Inviting the suspension of civil rights is a worse “cure” than the problem.

Your desire to rely on government mandate to do what you cannot manage to accomplish by consensus is evidence that YOU ARE OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY.

“Ten Foot Rule”? Unrealistic. Does not take into consideration ambient noise. “Loud Pipes, fines and impoundments”? Enforcement nightmare. WHO determines what is “unapproved” and what standards are to be used for approval? I have no doubt you intend for the most rabid anti-noise special interest group to be in charge of determining what is acceptable. Fines and prosecution for POSSESSION (installation) of car stereo equipment? Your logic: I currently own a penis. Therefore, I am capable of rape. Therefore, I am guilty of rape. Lock me up.

Obnoxious use is a valid issue. Possession is not.

I’d like to approve of what you do. Sorry, just can’t get past the narrow-mindedness and fanaticism. The founder of MADD is no longer associated with that organization. MADD is now too focused on government intrusion to suit her. You folks are already there, just haven’t realized it yet.

Quietly Go Away.

Schurkey

schurkey@qwest.net
(May 10, 2003)

May 25, 2003

You guys are a bunch of woodsman!

matt.sides@furman.edu
(May 25, 2003)

June 18, 2003

seriously are you high? how about instead of trying to pass all of these silly laws you mind your own business and let people live their lives?
johndeerrm@qwest.net
(June 18, 2003)

June 23, 2003

i have to admit, when i stumbled across your website, i was shocked. your efforts may be more than futile, but at least you have the element of suprise on your side, i was shocked that there was an organized movement against sound pollution…. very cute guys. I am not here to disagree with you today, i would just like to make you aware of the fact that you cannot expect anybody to take you seriously when you misrepresent facts and fabricate scientific research results. I drive a so called “boom car.” (a rediculous name for an automobile with an aftermarket stereo system geared toward low end frequencies) I am a prize winning SPL competitor. i optimize the sound pressure in my car to be as loud, unbareable and obnoxious as possible- all in the name of sport and fun. SPL contests are held far from any residential area and are a scientifically sophisticated event. your average joe off the street is not intelligent enough to design an SPL trophy system. my question for you people at noise free is, why cant I, in a controled envirenment and in a safe way, own and opperate an extremely powerful stereo due to the stupidity of a few young kids who drive through towns bumping? we should not change the laws regarding high decibal aftermarket stereos. perhaps police should enforce these laws better. I am a big part of the industry and i can tell you right now, were only growing. i think car electronics keep kids off the streets and in garages. so its a little noisy. SUE US. YOU’LL LOSE. keep tryin guys. your wasting your time. you cant stop progress.
FoCuS1drs@aol.com
(June 23, 2003)

June 26, 2003

You people have got to be kidding me. If you don\’t like music or noise maybe you should move to the middle of Montana or better yet - maybe underground!!! I know a nice little burial plot where you can make your new home!!!!!
upshift2@hotmail.com
(June 26, 2003)

June 27, 2003

i dont know what most people have a problem with,noise ordinance has a schedule.if its o.k. to start working and running a jackhammer at 7 in the morning,then i think people really need to stop being babies,they dont bitch unless its someone else,we have grown to be a nation that depends too heavily on our government,and we are going to lose our country if we keep crying about dumb stuff and let police or whomever have all the power they want to do all the wrong things.seriously, we have bigger issues to work on than peoples car stereos GROW THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
twistedangel904@yahoo.com
(June 27, 2003)

July 9, 2003

Yes, there will be a day when there will be no loud motor cycles, stereos, concert venues, neighbors, or anything else. The day you die. Until that day tolerence is what we are all missing. Of course I’m young and young people seem to have more tolerence and patience. As you get older it seems to fade and you find yourself saying, “Who would ride a motor cycle that loud? That’s too noisy for our community!” or “Look at that young guy in that car with that radio, its way too loud!” Where as years before you were peace, love and rock and roll. We forget sometimes that in youth there is noise. Tolerence is key! Remember that you will get your wish! You will die. Until then enjoy being able to here the noise. Who knows, it may be your nieghbors leaf blower at 9 a.m. that you miss the most when your gone!

Joe Frigone
Youngstown, OH
jfrigone@theradiocenter.com
(July 9, 2003)

July 29, 2003

Why don’t you people direct your efforts toward somthing that makes a REAL impact on the world. Trying to stop a whole culture of young adults is deffinatly not the way to go. You make the Audio industry out to be another TALIBAN supporting troops to ruin peaceful neighbrohoods. You take claims like “ear-splitting” and “heart-stoping” literaly. Well the next time a leaf blower stops your heart or splits your ears send me the bill from the hostpital so i can pay it for you, morons. Stop trying to make the world perfect because its a lost cause. go back to your quite little boring lives and stay out of ours

Brandon Harwood
stealthish06@hotmail.com
(July 29, 2003)

August 11, 2003

ok guy look, i guess every person has their veiw on everything and as a vet i will not go into the whole speech thing, but damn guy find something else to complain about my loud exhaust on my american v-8 bronco has saved my ass more than once.. and please dont go after just one manufacture of exhaust systems, dont forget about the little ricers running around sounding like a pissed off bubble bee in a coffee can.. i dont see ya going after the bike crowd or have ya and got told where to go? anyway so before ya start picking on one brand look at the world around you alright
gearrat@citlink.net
(August 11, 2003)

August 12, 2003

Hello…you’re all a bunch of retards and….
livefreeinmd@hotmail.com
(August 12, 2003)

You people are what is wrong with America. Please see below for the Bill of Non-Rights.

We hold these truths to be self evident: that a whole lot of people are confused by the Bill of Rights and are so dim they require a Bill of NON-Rights.”

ARTICLE I: You do not have the right to a new car, big screen TV, or any other form of wealth. More power to you if you can legally acquire them, but no one is guaranteeing anything big.

ARTICLE II: You do not have the right to never be offended. This country is based on freedom, and that means freedom for everyone — not just you! You may leave the room, turn the channel, express a different opinion, etc.; but the world is full of people and you MUST have tolerance or others.

ARTICLE III: You do not have the right to be free from harm. If you stick a screwdriver in your eye or spill *HOT* coffee in your lap , learn to be more careful, do not expect the tool manufacturer or food vendor to make you and all your relatives independently wealthy.

ARTICLE IV: You do not have the right to free food and housing. Americans are the most charitable people to be found, and will gladly help anyone in need, but we are quickly growing weary of subsidizing generation after generation of professional couch potatoes who achieve nothing more than the creation of another generation of professional couch potatoes.

ARTICLE V: You do not have the right to free health care. That would be nice, but from the looks of public housing, we’re just not interested in public health care right now .
livefreeinmd@hotmail.com
(August 12, 2003)

Dear sir,

You are a moron.

My reasoning behind this is that ALL of the exhaust systems and companies you are whining about are all within legal sound limits. If you don’t like that, TOO BAD!

I have a Camaro, a BIG and LOUD V8 with aftermarket exhaust, and you know what? I have NEVER had any complaints. I have been complimented by neighbors, passers-by AND local police.

My system, loud as it is, is fully within legal limits and… drum roll please… will NOT make you go deaf!!

Another point you probably did not think long enough to come up with is that many of these aftermarket exhaust systems, including those made by Edelbrock, Flowmaster and Flowtech, are QUIETER than the original factory peice is.

You cannot be serious about a fully legal exhaust system causing excessive stress and hearing loss. At the very most, you will hear me drive by for 2 or 3 seconds. How can 3 seconds of faint rumble add stress to your life? And as for hearing loss, I am sorry, but that is total BS. I (as well as many people i know) have stood behind and beside fully-prepared race cars sporting 540 cubic inch (or more) engines running on pure, un-adulterated alcohol with open headers! Open headers are a HUGE amount louder than ANY exhaust system made by Edelbrock, Flowmaster or Flowtech, and I have never once heard of any case of hearing loss from anyone who has been near one of these machines, even for extended periods of time.

We “hot rodders” also do not buy these exhaust systems simply to piss people like you off. They are meant to improve the car’s performance. The slightly (if any) louder exhaust sound is a side effect of that. Even if we all used the factory exhaust system, we would add horsepower in other ways. This should also piss you off, because, plain and simple, MORE HORSEPOWER MEANS MORE SOUND!!

You have no right to bash my American friends because of “…their ignorance…” by using these exhaust systems. I will bet you any amount that your lawnmower or your dog is both LOUDER and MORE ANNOYING to anyone else than an aftermarket-exhaust equipped car passing by for 2 or 3 seconds.

Incase you haven’t noticed, the totally illegal straight-through type mufflers that are commonly installed on imports such as Hondas and Toyotas are FAR louder than any system you will find on a Camaro or a Mustang. period.

arr_adam@email.com
(August 12, 2003)

August 22, 2003

THANKS TO YOUR NEED TO CONTROL OTHERS MY SON HAS JUST RECIEVED 5 DAYS IN JAIL AND FORMAL PROBATION FOR SIX MONTHS. THIS WAS HIS FIRST NOISE TICKET, ISSUED AT 5:32PM IN A BUSINESS AREA, FROM A STOCK STEREO. I HOPE IN THE FUTURE YOU ALL ARE SUBJECT TO SOMEONE ELSES \”NO TOLORENCE LAWS\” AND YOU SPEND TIME IN JAIL AND THAT YOU MUST BE SUBJECT TO ARREST AND SEARCH AT ANY MONENT.
S.FORBES
(August 22, 2003)

September 3, 2003

I don’t get it. When did everyone with a voice in this country become a tofu eating pot-smoking pantywasted “peace-loving” nancy boy? I only ask that question because it IS how I feel, everything you see, hear, or read in the news would have you beleive it. But the fact of the matter is, I know it’s just not true. The real truth is, the intelligent genuine people of this country are too busy trying to earn a living and engage in the pursuit of happiness to get their panties in a bunch every damn time some other fucking hippie scumbag comes up with a new “cause”. “Stop smoking, cuz it’s bad for you!” Weeeeellllll NO SHIT, ASSHOLE!!! Do you really think insulting my intelligence by rubbing YOUR beliefs in my face and telling me something that I’ve been getting browbeaten with since the first fucking grade is gonna make me wake up and go, “hey, ya know what… those hippie dipshits are fucking right, man! I gotta quit smoking, man! I never believed it before, I mean I thought the hacking and wheezing musta just been from having the longest fucking cold in all of goddamn HISTORY!!!…. man.” Simply put… no. And ya know what, if it hadn’t have been for those assholes bugging me in MY fucking livingroom EVERY FUCKING NIGHT on MY tv for the last FIVE GODDAMN YEARS…. maybe i WOULDA quit smoking by now! And it’s not just the fucking cigarettes… GUNS, guns are a basic right to every law abiding citizen of this country… a right given to us, in fact, by the exact same document that allows you assholes to plaster your opinions all over every goddamn billboard, newspaper, and tv commercial in this great country of ours. So, you wanna outlaw smoking, huh? Okay, done… now you’ve just sent about 10 or 11 million people into the unemployment office, you’ve doubled the workload on the DEA because… all of the 30 or 40 million legal smokers in this country now… guess what… they still smoke, but now there gun toting chain smoking outlaws. Out laws who chain smoke (illegally) and carry big fucking guns (illegally) and as of yesterday were good natured tax paying law abiding citizens, but now we are outlaws and ya know what? Since we’re already outlaws… we’re going to kill you, Mr. “my opinion matters” piece of steaming shit hippie scumbag. GET A JOB GET A WIFE EAT MEAT PAY YOUR TAXES SHUT THE FUCK UP AND BE HAPPY LIKE THE REST OF US UNTIL YOU GET HIT BY A BUS OR AN EARTHBOUND POODLE (props to Mr. Leary) OR A STROKE OR WHATEVER ENDS YOU AND YOU DIE!!! goddamn you fuckers piss me off. Veggie burger with extra tofu munchin tree huggin whale savin bellbottoms and plaid wearin goddamn… #@$ @$%# #@$ ARRRG! GET A FUCKING LIFE!

This, however, is a new low in the world of hippie scumbag mother fuckers with nothing to do but sit around thinking up new fucking causes. Come on, now. Let’s at least… for once in your doped up to the gills miserable excuse of an existance… can we just pretend your actually a part of the real world? Huh, just once? I mean, come on, at the very least, you’ve got to admit, there are ALOT of us… how did you so eloquently put it… “BOOMCAR” fanatics… out there, do you really think we’re all just going to park our two or three thousand dollar rolling jukeboxes in the garage and let ‘em sit there “peacefully” collecting dust while we happily sit in the living room watching fucking Opera (with the TV on mute, of course… wouldn’t want to “disturb” the termites) and passing around a joint while we think of new opinions to force unto the world around us?

Now, this may come as a shock to you… but I am most definately not saying that kickin’ systems and noisy leaf blowers should be just be allowed to run rampant into all hours of the night… believe me, that gets on my nerves as much as anybody… I mean, trust me, I need as much fuckin beauty sleep as I can get, if ya know what I mean… but what I’m saying is this: Haven’t you ever heard the expression “you can catch more flies with honey then with vinegar”? Me, for example, I drive a 1965 Hotrod Mustang with roughly $2500 worth of stereo equipment alone. I can pretty much guarantee it would violate your proposed laws both with the straight pipe shorty dual exhaust, and with the stereo. If you succeed in passing a law that outlaws my car… do you actually believe I’m just going to swallow my pride… put my “relic” in a museum, and go buy some faggot ass Honda hybrid nonoffensive electric fucking “car”? Again, very simply put… no. If my car is outlawed, then I guess I am going to become an outlaw. And I can guarantee you that you will find that about 98% or more of the people who drive these “grosly offensive” vehicles will feel the same way I do. So, now your going to have to throw us in jail, the prisons get even more overcrowded, the police even more overtasked, etc., etc…. I could go on with the cause and effect scenario for days… but put some actual thought into it, and you’ll figure it out. On the other hand, contrary to the belief this letter may have portrayed about me… I’m a reasonable guy, and even as the owner of a spectacular example of your “boomcars” (honestly… couldn’t you have come up with something just a LITTLE more creative then that… it really gives away your age)… like I said… at 2 o’clock in the morning, they get on my nerves just as much as anybody elses. Point being, if you want to be successfull in your little “quest”… your gonna have to be a little more compromising. Like time restrictions versus decible level… or laws that apply only to certain areas, such as residential areas vs. commercial areas… etc. Just use some common sense, and maybe we CAN “all get along”…….asshole.
Sincelerly,
SGT Timothy M Steffen
timothy.steffen@hqasc.army.mil
(September 3, 2003)

Im tired of you whiny little fuckers whining about every little thing that makes “too much noise”. Are you aware that louder motorcycles are safer???? Most people do not look for motorcyclists like my self. The only thing that keeps me from being killed by some dumbfuck is the fact that my Harley is LOUD ENOUGH FOR PEOPLE TO HEAR ME. And if you dont like it… TOO FUCKING BAD!!! Do you realise that the sound of those “loud” Harleys is a 100 year old tradition??? That sound is as fucking american as apple pie and napalm. And as for your attack on Flowmaster for there exhaust systems being “too loud”…. FUCK OFF. Many people, like myself, happen to find that sound to be like music to there ears. And if you pencil-necked little fuckers dont like it, TOO GODDAMNED BAD!!!
steel_chicken_dude@yahoo.com
(September 3, 2003)

In case you’ve been living in a cave since the late ’50’s, rumbling exhausts ARE a uniquely American thing. Flowmaster’s advertising is right on the mark. If you don’t like the sound, wear ear plugs.
aparadisejr@adelphia.net
(September 4, 2003)

October 21, 2003

you need to keep your comments to yourself, you are making everyone that hears you dumber thank you for your time
plattc@soar.army.mil
(October 21, 2003)
get a life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thomas.kircher@agedwards.com
(October 21, 2003)

October 26, 2003

It seems every time I look up someone is after someone else and striving to strip away our freedoms. It seems also the best way to achieve this is to fall back on the old “it is bad for your health” excuse.

I am a biker and am not surprised to be attacked as we are targeted by just about everyone until they want something. In my community of about a half million people we are constantly being asked to cough up the dough for one charity or another and guess what? We do it! We have charity runs every month. Most of us are not well-to-do but we are as generous as they come. We raise money for SIDDs and Make-A-Wish Foundation. We collect toys by the truckload for Toy-For-Tots and Christmas Unlimited. People come out of their homes and wave and cheer when they see and yes, HEAR us coming loaded down with gifts for those less fortunate. We have charities for individuals who are in need medically and cannot afford corporate America’s price tag for health. By “health” I mean real people with real diseases, not the disease you have which seems to be: “I am annoyed by everyone else til my tummy hurts syndrome” We also raise money for families of bikers who have lost their lives while riding. Many of those were mowed down by a nice quiet-running car making an illegal left turn in front of them. (Should we ban left-turns?)

This is the society we have built and live in, noise is a part of that. I live near a major freeway and I hear it night and day. That freeway is loaded with trucks bringing our dinners. It is not engine noise I hear, it is the sound of hundreds of tires spinning on the pavement! So an engineless vehicle would make just as much noise. I can hear the nearby trains at night too. They haul the coal that powers this town.

I wish you busy-bodies would redirect your efforts toward more realistic goals and leave those alone who want to be left alone. Recently a letter to our local paper was from someone who wanted to ban black leather as apparel for bikers as it scared him!

I like the sound of my motorcycle and if you don’t, too bad. Don’t worry if you don’t like the sound I’ll be gone in a few seconds.

Bob Wyman
PS Feel free to add this letter to your website.
neswyman@intergate.com
(October 26, 2003)

Don’t you have anything better to do with your life than bitch about everyday noises like fucking leaf-blowers? Get serious for a fucking second. Leaf blowers make yard work ten times easier, loud cars and motorcycles are safer because people notice them. If you really want to shun the modern conveniences and safety of equipment that happens to be a little noisy, then why don’t you stupid fuckers all go join the goddamn Amish community. What the hell are you trying to save your hearing for if you don’t want to hear anything??? Hell, what’s next? Are you going to start rallying against infants crying and waking you up at the late hour of 7:00? You retired shitheads need to join a fucking bridge club or something. Kiss my big white American LOUD ass!! I’ll be turning my car stereo up that much louder at midnight just to piss you off. Go fuck yourselves you stupid whiny fuckers.
M1bdrt@aol.com
(October 26, 2003)

November 9, 2003

Taking leaf blowers away from landscapers is the same as taking power saws from carpenters. Let the carpenters use hand saws to build your house and see what it cost for that house.
Garbage trucks make loud noise why not make them use mules and carts?
Your views are understandable but way too extreme, come back to the real world. You are not the only ones living here.
Lawnmowers put out higher decibels than blower, check the specs and you will see, its not quite the same quality of sound but just as loud. Are you going to ask for those to be band.
Once again you people are way too extreme. You dont want ot hear leaf blowers move to a third world country. You are the same people that buy a house by the airport and then complain about the noise.
fpotucek@swfla.rr.com
(November 9, 2003)


Dec 31 2002

Love Notes - 2002

Tag: Love Notesadmin @ 9:06 pm

October 7, 2002

blow it out your ass!
sixinchsloth@aol.com
(October 7, 2002)

October 8, 2002

What can I say? Wow. Where DO I start with you guys? I guess by telling you how I found out about your site and a little about who I am.
I am a 19 year old male in college at Auburn University in Auburn, Alabama.
I love motorsports, especially motocross, an event in which I have competed in several races on my (gasp, Satan, the enemy!) 2002 Yamaha YZ250F. If you don’t know what that is, you should be more informed of the battle in which you are “fighting”. I found out about your site through www.thumpertalk.com a site dedicated to four stroke dirtbikes.
About my general disposition on noise: “noise” is a subjective word. I personally like rock music. Some people, generally with in the elder genre, consider this to be noise. I consider it music. Who is right? My dirtbike is VERY loud. However, it is used ONLY for closed course competition (that means a track). I like large V-8 engines. Why? they make more horsepower than other, foreign designs (read Asian 4 cylinders), and who can mistake that rich sound it makes at full song. That said, you know a little about me and my viewpoint. Now on to a SHORT summary of my critiques.
Upon viewing your “Legislative agenda” page, my first thought is, “Is this real?” This is so unbelievably extreme and invasive into personal rights and liberties I honestly asked myself if this is a communist plot. If you respond that noise is an invasion of your personal rights (as you state in so many words on your site), I ask you: Do you want to put a ban on 2am thunderstorms because it’s noise is invading your “right to peace”? Or why don’t we just put a ban on thunderstorms altogether, after all, they are loud at any time of the day. Honestly, I have yet to ever be awoken by a stereo, loud (boom, as you say) car, or, heaven forbid a leaf blower or back up alarm at 2am. Not ever. Nature, however, has sent many a thunderstorm at times and noise levels which are very offensive to me. So lets add a ban on thunderstorms, because they’re loud and invasive to my personal rights too.
Now I assume you guys at least made some effort to write out this “Legislation” in a legalistic manner. But there are so many text book errors, it calls into question the amount of effort you really put into this. The most blatant example is your use of a copy-righted name brand to describe personal water craft (PWC). “Jet Ski”, the term you use, is a registered copy-righted name for the watercraft produced by Kawasaki. To be totally politically correct and unoffensive, you should use the term PWC, or personal watercraft.
Your “statistic” that noise levels in major cities have risen by “six-fold” over the last 15 years as a cause by mainly cars is just plain ridiculous. From John Doe to automotive engineers, anyone will tell you that today’s cars are quiter than ever before. For example, I ride my bike into campus everyday. You can not hear a car coming until it is with in about 20 feet of you. And even then, we’re talking tire noise, not motor, and this is with the cars going 50 mph! You also do not take into account the increased number of automobiles and population growth during that time span.
Also in your “legislation”, you mention the loudness of “back-up beepers”. This is ridiculous. You have forgoten the reason for these devices. They are loud purposely to warn people who may be in danger behind a reversing vehicle whose operator may not have good rearward vision. You also ignore the fact that much of the reason the beepers are loud is because of the enviroment for which they were intended. Most are used around heavy equipment, construction sites, factories, etc, where it is difficult to here things as it is. The beeper must be loud enough to be heard over these things, and often, through the ear protection which accompanies them.
But far and above all in stupidness is your “legislation” for “limitations on motorized watercraft”. Here is your exact statement, cut and pasted, “(20) Limitations on motorized watercraft: Use of motorized watercraft on public waters shall be limited to times prescribed by county and local ordinance.”
This one should jump out at you. Why? This is supposed to be LEGAL LEGISLATION. If someone is writing “legislation”, should they not be aware of the actual laws and how the CURRENT government is run? I think so. So shat is the problem? Public waters are GOVERNED BY THE STATE!!!!! Logically, then, they could not be governed by “county or local ordinances”! Some legislation this is! Wow! But lets say that they were governed by counties, just for fun. Many counties use waterways as their dividers- who’s laws would be correct? After all, if you can use “one county’s” water during certain times that don’t agree with the others, are you allowed only to use one half of the water way? Also, this would be further ridiculous by the sheer number and diversity of laws. Say you are traveling down river at 5pm. The county you are in allows this, but the one ahead does not. What do you do? Stop there for the night? How would you even know? Would you put up signs? If so, where? On a buoy? Who would care? Who would patrol for those evil violators at 2am? Yes, that’s right, just let it out… NO ONE.
And finally, a “noize czar”? Are you serious? What country ARE you from? If you were trying to hide your communist plot, you have failed miserably. No self-respecting American will ever live under the power and control of a “czar”.
All in all, this is the worst written and most poorly thought-out, liberal, communist organization I have EVER seen or heard of. Your page is hilarious. And if you are as old as I think you are, it must really hurt to get destroyed by a 19 year old from Alabama. I hope I see this letter, and a response in your defense (whatever that could be) posted on your site. I look forward to many more hillarious moments on your site. Keep up the good work, giving us noise-adulterated people something to laugh about. And props to America for allowing people this stupid to have a say.
And so finally I say, down with communism, you will never control American’s lives. And up to noise pollution. In fact, I’ll use my personal rights to run my 105db dirtbike as long and loud as I want to. And for the final blow, I’ll install a straight-piped blower on my straight-piped V-8 502 powered boat, equipped with back up beeper, and I’ll blaze through “county controlled” waterways at full throttle, with my 1000 watt stereo on full blast.
God Bless America.
Brmill26@aol.com
(October 8, 2002)
You people are quite frankly, fucking idiots. What the FUCK do you think you are doing? You must be insane, or worse yet, inept and ignorant. Go do something useful, like clean your grandma’s underwear or even take a bath yourselves, you stink.
KS
raptur@cox-internet.com
(October 8, 2002)

October 10, 2002

You guys are a bunch of tree huggin hippies. No audible sound over ten feet. Do you have the intelligence to realize what Dba that is. It makes no sense, find something better to do with you time….jerk offs
smithe88@hotmail.com
(October 10, 2002)
With no respect, you folks are nuts! Find some isolation chamber and stay there, forever. The normal people will fight you just like “we” fight the enviros and other big government wackos. We, the people will win because you are the minority.
Best regards,
Paul
dukepk@cybersurfers.net
(October 10, 2002)

October 11, 2002

you people crack me up, get a life. losers
PUGMASTA2002@aol.com
(October 11, 2002)

Do you really think this is what our fore fathers had in mind?
ADLBWM@aol.com
(October 11, 2002)

Hi Kids,
Just when I thought people in the world could not be more stupid you guys jump up and volunteer.
Get a grip, buy some ear plugs and get on with life. Some of the things you mentioned are a problem - I cant stand the sound of a Harley Motorcycle myself. But to ban every sound is ignorant.
I would like to suggest you vacation in the wilds, live in the country and avoid civilization completely. Start your own little noise free community with your own noise free people.Write your own local noise free laws. But leave the rest of us alone.
Sangria
“Collette Lemons”
(October 11, 2002)

Get a life!
“Rod Schwaiger”
(October 11, 2002)

October 12, 2002

does this mean i will not be able to fart in public you commy morons?
xr200@alltel.net
(October 12, 2002)

November 5, 2002

Greetings,
I normally do not bother to respond to sites such as yours, but I find this irresistable.
I live in Evansville IN, a quiet little town (of 250,000+) in southwest Indiana. We have the best of all worlds, a navigable river at the city’s edge, with 24/7 freighters, tugboats, powerboats, jetskis and of course, inland gulls. We have several rail yards, 100’s of miles of railroad tracks, crossing virtually every major thorougfare, with accompanying warning bells. We have a dragstrip, and a circle track on the edge of town. I live across the street from a stadium where rock concerts are held regularly, and within 200 yards of a 6 lane expressway. Our town has at least 6 dedicated car audio shops, and 10 auto parts and repair shops which market Flowmaster and other performance mufflers. I like it here. I personally have no sympathy for anyone who moves into a major city and expects it to be quiet. It simply is not going to happen. The snowblowers, leaf blowers, lawnmowers, motorcycles, atv’s, loud cars, trains and airplanes are a part of an industrial society, which most of us happen to live in.
My best suggestions, if you really want peace and quiet, is to move to the desert, or convert to Amish and move to Pennsylvania. I drove tractor trailers over the road for many years and can recommend some very quiet places if anyone is interested.
Get over it, the vast majority of people simply do not care if they are bothering you. You can’t take away peoples right to be assholes. People like you are like most other “environmentalists”, you really don’t care about the world at large, only in the small space you happen to occupy for your insignifigant moment in time. All you want is to have your own personal idea of comfort in your small space, which is your perogative. Just don’t let your comfort impose on mine. My favorite comfort is the Recaro reclining bucket seat on the drivers side of my 500+ horsepower, 3″ exausted(113 db @ 6000 rpm measured 1 meter behind car) classic Mustang, cruising at 3500 RPM getting 7mpg while listening to KISS ALIVE III at full volume on a 2000 watt, 12 speaker Alpine sound system. The sheer joy of winding the 400 cubic inch V8 through the gears is something that those like you will, unfortunately, never understand. I strongly suggest that you do not try to take this away from me. Those who feel the way I do about thier cars, bikes and toys will fight if backed into a corner by self centered, arrogant people such as yourselves. Please be careful.
ltdrifter@hotmail.com
(November 5, 2002)

ur fucking gay get a life
(November 5, 2002)

As per your voice in America, most of us want to tell you to go purchase ear plugs. This is America, this is a hobby and life for many here. It is also a multi BILLION dollar business. And this is me exercising my freedom of speech.
Tom
Old School America
tholt@san.rr.com
(November 5, 2002)

November 6, 2002

Noise-Bitches,
Let’s blame muffler manufacturers for loud cars and shut them down. We could blame gun manufacturers for all gun-related crimes, and shut them down. We could blame all spoon and fork manufacturers for obesity, shut them down. We could blame all lightbulb manufacturers for damaging our eyes, shut all of them down. Do you see the point that I’m trying to make? We could live without all of these little perks, but we, as American’s are lucky enough to have the means to get them. Yes, you’re pissed because some other guy has a nice-sounding car, but it’s low frequencies invade your ears’ privacy. TOO BAD! There will always be sounds that we don’t prefer to hear; deal with them. If the sound of a car’s engine pisses you off so bad, dig a deep hole in the ground and don’t come out. That would fix your problem, and the rest of us wouldn’t have to hear tree-huggers like you bitching all the time.
Regards,
Sucka Foo
-Proud owner of an American V8 that makes noises that piss you off.
sukafoo55@hotmail.com
(November 6, 2002)

November 7, 2002

If you HAVE a research department you should slap them! As far as legality is concerned if the parts in question carry an E.O.# they are “emissions legal replacement parts for use on emissions vehicles” duh! Flowmaster has aggressively courted the governments approval for their products. so that negates over 1/2 of your “press release” Hmmmm.
State inspector DO look for ILLEGAL hot rod equipment, do you know why? Because when they find it they stand to MAKE MONEY from the person trying to get their vehicle inspected.
I also must call you on your “elementary school teacher” um, the police are NOT sympathetic to hot rodders as many of them deal with flat out harassment regarding legal and protected actions like driving the speed limit! You obviously do not like Motorcycles either because they make noise! Well I have a loud muffler on MY bike! You really don’t care why but it is because when people like you get in their rolling living rooms and sleep their way down the highway you don’t SEE motorcycles the noise is necessary to keep you from RUNNING OVER ME actually preventing the chaos and confusion you say we create! Again duh! so actually you are more apt to sleep your way into me driving down the highway when you DON’T hear me. That works for cars as well as motorcycles.
You think criminals want you to hear their vehicles? uh, no, stealth is a criminals friend - are you a criminal? you seem to want quiet…..
Maybe you should go after dishwasher manufacturers ant TV makers! Your dishwasher makes more annoying noise, that lasts longer, than me driving by Your house! and there hasn’t been much worth watching on TV for years.
better yet get some earplugs this is AMERICA and leave my freedom alone if you don’t like it GET OUT!
Chris Spielvogel
hotrodder
bike rider
noise maker

PNYPWR@comcast.net
(November 7, 2002)

November 11, 2002

“In this atmosphere, accidents increase, property values decline, and criminality flourishes.”
HAVE YOU READ WHAT YOU’VE SAID, MORON? Can you prove that property values decline? My car is not throwing flames at your home as it passes. It causes NO damage to anything except for the egos of extreme environmentalists who have lost a sense of reality. Criminaity increases? Some of the most outstanding citizens also own car collections? Making a statement like that is extremely judgemental and prejudice. I’m sorry everyone can’t drive a Honda Accord that makes no noise, and also has no performance. By the way, Flowmaster exhausts are NOT Illegal anywhere, do your research before making uninformed and asinine statements as you have. I’m not sure what your group’s goals, motivations, or agendas may be, but you need to wake up and realize we are in the great United States of America. We’re not in a communist state, a monarchy, or a dictatorship, if we were, and you were in power, you could stop this “horrible problem” of nice sounding cars that show pride and quality in the American automobile heritage. Also, you do now OWN the roads and streets, if you did you may be able to stop it. However, you seem to be another spoiled yuppie who needs to have his/her own way by making everyone else conform to your ideas of how life should be. I am not going to retaliate and come rev a classic muscle car by your home, but you WILL NOT stop me from showing pride in my American car. Not everyone wants a quiet, slow, strictly economical car. I am proud of my America and proud of the great products we have made over years of my life and before. I will not settle for an inferior product that will not fit into my interests and recreational hobbies just because you are a over-complaining neighbor to someone who has an interest that you do not share with them.
I will forward your email address to as many car enthusiasts as I can, and you will not have your selfish way.
God Bless You, and good luck on fulfilling your insanely selfish dreams.
As long as you live in America, you’ll live a very unsatisfying life because of your disregard for others and their freedom.
rmckinney@yorklibraries.org
(November 11, 2002)

November 30, 2002

Sir,
You have no clue what you’re talking about, referring to Flowmaster as the “downfall of America.” You’re truly a pathetic liberal who doesn’t know the first technical issue about cars.
Flowmaster (the company) provides a “muffler.” It does muffle the sound output of the vehicle over a stock system with no mufflers. Perhaps we should all just go without Flowmasters. I assure you that open pipes with no mufflers is at least 3dB (twice, for the non-mathematically inclined) as loud. Do you dare forget the other exhaust companies? Edelbrock, Borla, Flowtech, Magnaflow, Dynomax, Greddy, Tanabe, and other companies who I’m not familiar with…. Some of those provide import exhaust systems. Imports currently provide the most noisy exhaust, and Flowmaster isn’t even a popular name among that group of automotive enthusiasts, who mainly prefer 4 cylinder vehicles.
Do your research, you dumbass. You can’t just start a rant on a company like Flowmaster like it’s a generic name as “Coke” has come to be.
On a more sincere note, loud exhaust and hot rods are more a part of American culture than your mornic agenda has ever been. If you eliminate performance exhaust companies, you’ll sure see a louder, more obnoxious America. Believe it or not, those companies’ products do dampen noise over cars with no mufflers.
Get a clue, get a life, and most importantly, get all your facts straight before ranting on a subject. Your mis-information is not appreciated by myself or my collective group of automotive enthusiasts.
Sincerely,
Josh Martin
ae4vr@myexcel.com
(November 30, 2002)

December 6, 2002

What is your problem ? Did you even have a childhood ? A youth of any sort ?
Your article has to be one of the stupidest things I have ever read . You are nothing but one of those tree hugging, more holy than thou hypocrites . I bet you have a cell phone don’t you ? Pager ? Well those things get on my nerves when I’m in a public place and that’s all you hear . You got kids ? Well your crying brats get on my nerves , we better ban the right to have children too. Don’t want to disturb the peace do we ? How about car alarms , horns on cars , mud grip tires that make a humming noise, 4cyl Imports with no muffler at all, Harley Davidsons, beeping microwave ovens, and you know, those buzzers on laundry dryers are awfully irritating, could you try and get those banned too ?
Why can’t you go on and harp and whine about something important ? Like getting those 80 year old drivers off the road, the ones that back up traffic 5 miles, running 20 in a 55 zone .
The only way you whining people will ever be happy, is if we all become Monks . The we won’t speak at all, and we better not ride horses either. The horse’s hooves make too much noise and disturb the peace .
So you just keep on driving around in your little electric Honda . Then there will still be normal, red blooded American’s like me that will fight you backwards weirdo’s. You can’t miss us, we will be the ones next to you in a REAL car, with 8 cylinders and loud exhaust, pointing and laughing at you as we rev our motors and spin rubber on your electric Easter egg .
Also, keep in mind what I said, because those cell phones keep ringing, that sure is annoying, having to hear those things ring while I’m trying to listen to my loud exhaust :-)
Regards,
Kennis Easter
slix5_0@psknet.com
(December 6, 2002)

December 9, 2002

I LOVE YOUR IDEAS!!!! Contact my company ASAP
Yea right, like youd get sponsorship with this b/s. How about we all crawl up in a padded room and whisper the bible to ourselves? Or how about you shut the f*** up about your dumb ass ideas on noise pollution. Get some facts. Where i live it is not illegal at all to put a flowmaster system on your car or truck. even if it was id still do it even if i didnt like it to piss off dumb asses like you. FYI: I hate flowmaster…My car has dynomax
:) ….F**K YOU!
JeremyJones57@hotmail.com
(December 9, 2002)

STOP THE NOISE
Figured that would get your attention.
You ever hear of changing the world one person at a time? Well, it doesnt work moron. Nobody that doesnt care now will ever care, get over it. Move to some 3rd world country where they don’t have a car and do the rest of us a favor.
Wuss.
ace140@bellsouth.net
(December 9, 2002)

December 10, 2002

If you want to have a real cause you should look into murder, drugs, depression, etc etc. We have terrorist living amongst us and all you worry about is car alarms and exhaust. How about horns??? Horns wake me up from my sleep.
I not trying to ridicule your cause but with everything wrong in this world you cause is pretty lame.
Robert Lopez
ICQ#: 37622129
baseman2001@earthlink.net
(December 10, 2002)

December 11, 2002

Go pick on the people who run with no Mufflers or those ricers with the Fart cannons that you can hear for miles. Atleast a V-8 with flow mastersdrops off after a block or 2.
V.Neufeld
cobra5_0@telusplanet.net
(December 11, 2002)
I think you are all friggin idiots. Yes I know this is not a good way to try and start a letter but come on. The point of Flowmasters is simply idiotic. A flowmaster on a car will normally be quieter than these *boom boom hotrod trucks* or whatever you call them. If anything its glasspacks.
I am sure that you will not be able to accomplish anything towards your goals with this sort of generalizations.
Thinkkker@aol.com
(December 11, 2002)

December 30, 2002

I have a nice quiet place for all you noise haters. If im ever in New Orleans il give you a drive by with my 69 chevy nove 396 with open headers i just know that you will love it !!! BAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRROOOOOOOOMMMMMMM.
ggardini@cfl.rr.com
(December 30, 2002)